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“I couldn’t even go home. I had to hide out for 30 days,” Rodman said, weeping.

“But I kept my head up high brother, I knew things were going to change,” he continued. “I knew it. I was the only one. I never had no one to hear me. No one to see me. But I took those bullets, I took all of that. Everybody came at me and I am still standing. And today is a great day for everybody, Singapore, Tokyo, China, a great day.”

Though bizarre, Rodman’s appearance is Singapore isn’t actually that surprising. He is one of the few Westerners who has cultivated a relationship with Kim, over several trips to Pyongyang. He was also a contestant on Trump’s reality television show Celebrity Apprentice, and claims to have given Kim a copy of the US president’s book The Art of the Deal.

In the interview, Rodman described Kim as “like a big kid even though he is small.”

He also avoided answering repeated questions about whether Kim can speak or understand English.

“He loves to have a good time and I was seeing this morning that he was going around and taking selfies,” Rodman said. (Weirdly, this was in response to a question about whether Kim speaks English — which Rodman never really answered.)

When CNN host Chris Cuomo pointed out that Kim “is not all selfies and smiles,” and has been “responsible for the deaths and hardships of a lot of people,” Rodman replied: “He is a good friend to me. I don’t see the politics of this whole situation. I don’t want to see that.”

Rodman also claimed that a “secretary” for Trump reached out to him before the summit and said “Donald Trump is so proud of you, and he thanks you a lot.”

Rodman’s lawyer later told reporters that the “secretary” was White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

Michelle Broder Van Dyke is a reporter and night editor for BuzzFeed News and is based in Hawaii.

Contact Michelle Broder Van Dyke at michelle@buzzfeed.com.

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